Hey, guys! In this episode, I am chatting with Carolina Parada, an illustrator, biologist, and researcher originally from Colombia, now living and working in France. She is most known for her stories that she writes and draws by herself!
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Get in touch with Carolina
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carosurreal/
- Behance: https://www.behance.net/carosurreal
Key Takeaways
“When you do things that make you happy, they will make people around you happy!”
- To build her following, in the beginning, Carolina used to practice every day and she would post every day, the best work she could do. Combining talent with discipline will help you achieve anything. Now, she is telling stories, she calls them microstories witch each artwork
- She is inspired by the South American mythology and stories she used to listen to as a kid (she is from Colombia)
- Carolina says that the technique is not very important, more important are ideas and stories. If you keep practicing and discipline you will develop your style and technique
Resources mentioned
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- Carolina’s book – Girl and Fish, a Joyful story of Tears
- Fav tools
- Books on South American mythology (in Spanish only )
- The book on Japanese mythology: The Book of Yokai
Special thanks to Carolina for joining me today. See you next time!
All artworks by Carolina Parada, used with permission
Episode Transcript
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Creative, artistic, happy! That’s you. There are endless possibilities for living a creative life. So let’s inspire each other. Art Side of Life interviews with Iva.
Iva Mikles
Hello everyone and welcome to the next episode of Art Side of Life where I chat with inspiring artists five days a week. My name is Iva and my guest today is Carolina Parada, also known as corrupts real and in this episode you will learn what is important on a journey of becoming an illustrator a why through discipline you can achieve anything,
Carolina Parada
you know, through discipline you can achieve anything, I mean, you need a certain level of talent and if we if we can say that, but I think the most important thing is to be disciplined. So So for me, it was really essential to get to the point where I am now is to practice everyday to draw every day and to post my drawings every day.
Iva Mikles
Adelina is an illustrator originally from Colombia now living in working as a biologist in France. She is most known for her stories that she writes and draw by herself. So please welcome Karolina parada and let’s get to the interview. So hello everyone to the next episode of Art Side of Life. And I’m super happy to have Carolina here. Hi.
Carolina Parada
Hi, thank you for having me. It’s nice to meet you.
Iva Mikles
Nice to meet you. Good, good. And my pleasure that you are here. And let’s just dive in and start with your background. Have you got to art and maybe you can mention, like a biggest turning points, you know, how you got where you are now with your art career?
Carolina Parada
Okay, well, well, I should let you know further. I’m actually a biologist. And I have a PhD degree in developmental biology and work as a researcher here in paradise. So let’s say that the My biggest decision to start in art was actually to start drawing daily. And also to start sharing my drawing some things with other people on social media. So that this is how I started my career in illustration, he said it is very simple. And actually, I can remember what trigger these decisions to be honest, but they are really the best ones I have made so far. And and more recently, I started writing stories and illustrating them. So I guess in the future, I will see this as an important turning point to in my life, I guess.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, definitely. And so do you remember? When was it you know, like when you decided, okay, I want to take this like, to the professional level or draw every day when you started to, like, do this more.
Carolina Parada
I don’t remember specifically why I decided to do it. I mean, I’ve always doodle like in any paper, but, but I never did it seriously until two or three years ago, actually. And I started doing in combination with my scientific work. So I did some scientific illustration before, but I wasn’t too focused on that. And then after job, I just decided that I would like to make drawings for kids specifically, and that I will like to tell stories for kids. And this is how I started I I don’t have good like, I cannot tell you like a moment of revelation that I realized that I have to do this No, it was like I started and it has been a gradual process. And then the experience of sharing my illustration has been really positive. I’ve I’ve had like an excellent feedback from people I see that people get excited when I when I post something that is interesting or that is cute or that when I tell stories, people get very receptive and they communicate with me so I really enjoyed this interaction with people a lot.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, because you’re building a big community already on your social media. And so maybe you can share like some tips how you started share stuff and what worked for you and so was it mainly the stories in illustration that’s why people started to follow you or did you have some other tips communication with other artists?
Carolina Parada
Oh, that’s a good one. Yeah, no, at the beginning I just shared the the illustrations without telling much and, and obviously at the because I didn’t have these or art background that is important for, you know, the technique. My technique was an extremely good, but it’s, it’s just, you know through discipline you can achieve anything. I mean, you need a certain level of talent if we if we can say that. But I think the most important thing is to be disciplined. So So for me, it was really essential to get to the point where I am now is to practice everyday to draw every day, and to post my drawings every day. Because you know, when you post something, you you make sure that it’s the best you can do, because he will be judged by people. And so at the beginning, yeah, I just posted my illustrations without much description, like I didn’t really describe what I was doing just. But then I realized that I actually want to tell stories, and sometimes that just one single drawing is not enough. So what I see what I do now and I’ve been doing it for for a while is to write a small story, what I call micro stories. And I feel that people enjoy this a lot. And, and I enjoy doing this a lot. So that it makes me happy. And so about the other artists through social media, especially Instagram, I’ve been able to have contact with a few of them and people that I really admired. And so I feel very fortunate that I managed to get to the point that I can talk to two people that are kind of my idols. And you know, this interaction is also really cool.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, definitely. Because sometimes it’s really nice to have like an idol in life. It doesn’t have to be like art related, you know, like, Oh, I like this art style, but I want to be in life like this person later on. Right? Did you have like some mentor when you were learning? Or what were your go to Resources?
Carolina Parada
No, I didn’t have any mentor. But but you know, I’ve been surrounded by very supportive people, you know, my family, my boyfriend, and and these artists that I’ve met through on social media have also very supportive. So you know, it is always nice when people tell you, Oh, this looks nice. This is This is cute. This is beautiful. I feel some kind of connection. This is, at least to me, it is it’s very important, like the field for continuing doing it. Yeah, definitely.
Iva Mikles
Because, as you mentioned, like what is real artists and what is not real artists, that can be like a discussion, right? But you don’t have to go to like a brick school, you know, to to learn the fundamentals. Now you have a lot of things as well online, where you can learn from right. And so when you were approaching learning, did you first like learn how to do like, maybe color? Or the characters? Or how did you try to progress in your artworks?
Carolina Parada
Yeah, I’ve always had a few characters, and I try to develop a story. And it depends on depending on the character, I use certain media or tools or techniques. Like, for example, I’ve been drying a story that this is what I’m working on right now that I don’t post it too much. But in which I only use black, red and white. So and then for other characters that they are more colorful, and, you know, EDP depends on the character. It’s like, they tell me what to what to use or what to do. So at the beginning, I use a lot of Copic markers. But now I do more digital illustration and watercolors. But again, it depends on on the story that I’m trying to tell the technique that I choose, or the tool that I choose.
Iva Mikles
Okay, so it’s related more to story, right? That the tools are only two characters. So for example, you have one story where you do all the characters digitally and all the characters with watercolors and stuff.
Carolina Parada
Yeah, it depends on the story. And the characters is like, you know, combination. And those Yeah,
Iva Mikles
do you have some tips for just starting out is how to maybe choose colors or how to you know, just define your story, maybe some do things or not to do things?
Carolina Parada
Well, actually, not really. So I think technique is not very important. Because as I told you, at the beginning, I didn’t have a very good technique. And, you know, throughout these two, three years, I’ve been developing a style. But I think what is more important is actually the ideas like if you want to be an illustrator, and you feel that you’re not too good at the technique, you doesn’t matter as long as you have an idea, because you will just take practice and discipline to develop your own style. And then it’s a matter of having ideas. Yeah, this is yeah, I think so ideas over technique.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, definitely. I agree. Because then you can touch some emotions with, with artists when you are just, you know, or other people who are just following your art. And, yeah, yeah, do you have maybe some, some tips of creating stories? Like maybe some books you read? Where you get the inspiration? Or do you have maybe some special inspiration? Like something strange even?
Carolina Parada
Um, well, there are several things that are inspiring to me. So for example, right now, I’m very interested in mythology. And particularly mythology related to nature. So I realized, for example, that in South America, where I’m from, I’m from Colombia, there are a lot like hundreds of characters that are related to nature, part of our mythology that are not very well known. I mean, it has been this information has been transmitted from generation to generation, but there is no book, there is no way to find it written. So what I’m doing right now is, you know, getting inspired from the stories that I heard when I was a kid to write and illustrate my own book. So this is this is, let’s say, my, my main objective right now. But I also have a few other subjects that I’m interested in. Like, for example, kids themselves. Like, if you think about it, kids are, they are tender, they are fun, they’re, they’re cute. And but when you when you grow up, and you become an adult, you have to change completely. So as adults, we are expected, expected to be aggressive, to be even defensive to dominant or be always alert. So this is very heavy for us, right. So if we could still behave as kids, like, for example, being nice or tender towards other people that would facilitate our lives a lot. So when I, when I draw for kids, I am always thinking about it, even if it’s not in place, it is not explicit in their drawing, I always think about it. So this is something that I that I think a lot so and that gives me some kind of inspiration. And another idea that I think is more obvious in my drawings is, is contemplation. So if you if you check my illustrations, there are a lot, there is a lot of contemplative girls in different atmosphere, like, either in daily activities or in more surreal environments. Because so I think contemplation is a second, as a concept that I would like to explore more, that some people really connected to melancholy, but it’s not always related to melancholy or sadness, because you can, you can be deeply happy and, and also being contemplative. And so, so, to me, the world goes so fast that we don’t have time to, you know, to stop and actually appreciate what we have around us. So we don’t have time to come to really contemplate so as as individuals and as a society are, are superficial because there’s no time. So I think this is something I would like to work on a little bit more to, you know, write about it. And I already have quite a good number of illustrations on that. So, yeah, this is I guess this is another source of inspiration, this particular subject. It’s something that I think is interesting.
Iva Mikles
So you’ve write your stories first than the ideas and then you go to create characters or does it also sometimes happen the other way that you feel like oh, this character can tell the story,
Carolina Parada
actually is most of the time is is that I made the drawing and then I I create the story.
Iva Mikles
Okay, yeah, really nice. Yeah, definitely. When you are also working with watercolors or the traditional media, do you have like some favorite tools like oh, this is my favorite brand or doesn’t matter for you?
Carolina Parada
Yeah, actually, I recently discovered liquid water water colors. And so can I say the brand? Yeah, of course, of course. Okay. The brand is called Baby Bo PVOH baby I went and and yeah, it’s really cool. I really love it. It’s so smooth and soft and the borders are so well defined is really cool. I really love it.
Iva Mikles
And do you also have like a favorite paper or you’re trying different types?
Carolina Parada
I, I’ve been trying different types. Well, Molly skinny books are not books are really good. But actually I have now a notebook from Muji is a Japanese brand. So he’s got this combination of paper watercolors with MUJI papers really good. I really liked it.
Iva Mikles
Oh, definitely. That sounds good. I need to try. Do you have maybe some tips or recommendations about how to balance your day when you have like a full time job? And you still want to draw every day? And so like, how many hours a day do you draw? And how do you plan your week maybe to kind of fulfill your creative energy?
Carolina Parada
Well, you know, the having the factor of having a day job, makes things easier, believe it or not, because so when I when I get home, when I arrived home after work, I’m very focused. And I know that I have to be efficient, because I don’t have enough time or even energy to do to spend just our thing, hours thinking about what to do I have to to be efficient. And that actually helps helps you be focused on what you’re doing. So I think he’s, he’s always very positive to have a day job. I don’t know, if I only did illustration. I don’t know if I would do more than what I do right now. And Anessa deep? Well, I actually don’t know. Do you know this this motivate question comes from the fact that that I don’t have I’m not forced to do this, to do illustration is just is a real passion, that maybe in the future, I will do only illustration. Who knows? I don’t know, maybe there’s there will be this point in which I have to deciding between science and art, but so far I can I can do both.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, definitely. Because they also sell your art brains? Or do you still have the main income only from your work? Or is it also balancing out from art?
Carolina Parada
Yeah, my main income is from my from my day job, but I do have an income from illustration. So I have a shop in RedBubble. So I upload my drawings there. And they they do everything, basically. But I also do Commission’s sometimes. So mainly portraits, and I’ve done posters. I have worked with people illustrating their books. So I have illustrating, I’ve illustrated so far to books from other people and my own book. That is, it’s on Amazon. So I also get, you know, a few dollars from, from my from selling my book. And yeah, so I do have an income. But let’s say that I don’t have to worry about getting money from illustration right now.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, exactly. So you don’t have to be pressed like, Okay, I need to make more income from my art. But you have like, mainly income from Yep. So it’s, you can be more creative in that way.
Carolina Parada
Yes, exactly. Exactly. I don’t have that pressure. So that makes it really fun. Yeah. And
Iva Mikles
so how do you decide when you are like thinking about new projects? And what to work on? Like, what is your thinking process?
Carolina Parada
Well, because, you know, I have just a few subjects that I’m interested in. And right now I’m really into exploring the interaction between humans and nature. But I don’t want to do it in a way that is boring, because you will be directed mainly for kids. So I want to make it in a way that is fun. And that, and the kids and also adults feel some kind of connection and emotion. So So yeah, I’m reading a lot about metal Japanese mythology, for example, in which they have a lot of fantastic beings related to nature. And I’m creating my own my own characters in order to make it fun, but actually, they ultimate goal is to show people what are the consequence of the human behavior on nature. So I’m using that as an example of how my thinking processes to make a story and then the illustration but It could be the same with any other subject. I mean, you I think you still need to read a little bit on stuff before starting your own stories or your own illustration. Yeah.
Iva Mikles
Can you recommend maybe some books on the Japanese mythology or other books?
Carolina Parada
Well, books book is exactly about Japanese mythology. If you watch Hayao Miyazaki movies or Studio Ghibli movies, you’ll find inspiration there for sure.
Iva Mikles
Definitely. And the other books you you mentioned that you were reading that’s like, the traditional meteorology books, or it’s some other stories.
Carolina Parada
Yeah, I actually a few months ago, I asked my friends and some Facebook, my South American friends, do you know any stories about creatures or fantastic beans that your parents or your grandparents told you about? Actually, I gather a lot of information. And there are a few books. They are in Spanish. So if you’re interested, I can send you the titles.
Iva Mikles
They will be great.
Carolina Parada
Yeah, so yeah, so I got information from that site. But you know, I like literature in general. And perhaps my favorite author is His name is Jose Saramago. He’s a Portuguese writer, but he died already. And he won a Nobel Prize. And really, his books are are just amazing. And even if it has nothing to do with children’s illustration, or the poetic illustration, it really serves as a source of inspiration. It’s just, it’s just so good.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, definitely. Because also some of the books, we can put in the shownotes. And even if they are in Spanish, maybe some they were translated, but also some people from our audience, they can read in Spanish, so that I think it’s a great reference.
Carolina Parada
Yeah, sure, I can send them to you.
Iva Mikles
Definitely. And so when you mentioned that you were balancing as well, the art and your daily life. So do you maybe have some other tips on how to do the time management or how to do the planning or these kinds of things, because a lot of people have issues with just managing their time. And, you know, just to be effective, and efficient.
Carolina Parada
Well, what I always do, and I think most people do is to make a to do list. But I tried to put hours to every single activity. And most of the time it works. But then, again, is because I know that I have a very restricted time. So I have to do it in that time. I don’t have the option of you. procrastinate.
Iva Mikles
And do you also do something like a prioritization? Like okay, maybe I know, I will not go to this party or because I need to finish this or you know, this kind of thing.
Carolina Parada
Oh, yeah, yeah, that for sure. So for example, I haven’t gone to the cinema in ages. Because all my free time is invested in, in drawing, or painting. And, yeah, I don’t watch TV too much. Yeah, things that I have to note that I have to admit, I want to invest all my free time in, in my drawings and art in general.
Iva Mikles
mYeah, definitely. Yeah. So if someone wants to learn and progress, they have to invest a certain amount in like progressing. So it will just not happen by itself.
Carolina Parada
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, you have to be disciplined in in any field, or any study or any area. Definitely. Yeah, I think this is a key point.
Iva Mikles
And is there something you wish you knew before starting with art? Something you would advise to younger self?
Carolina Parada
Oh, yeah, definitely. I would like to. I mean, I started pretty late, because I could have studied art instead of by way of doing biology. But I don’t think it’s too bad actually. I mean, this this because my work is is quite demanding in terms of energy, energy, like physical energy and also mental energy. But it’s very challenging and it keeps my my brain working. So I think that helps for our to Yeah, yeah, definitely. I guess it keeps me awake somehow.
Iva Mikles
That’s really good. And how did you do your Networking. You know, when you decided you wanted to do art, you started to share on social media? And how did you find your first paid project?
Carolina Parada
You have been very fortunate because I haven’t looked actively for any project. All the projects I’ve worked with, I mean, with other people like collaborations or these book illustrations, etc. is people have contacted me on social media, mainly Instagram. Yeah. So just, you know, by sharing my illustrations daily and constantly, and sharing my stories, that has been enough so far to, to get collaborations and commissions. Yeah, definitely.
Iva Mikles
And have you ever received something like a best advice? Or worst advice, you know, concerning art? And maybe what do you see that young artists are getting now?
Carolina Parada
Yeah, so probably the best advice was someone that told me that I should self publish my stories. So this is what I did. At the beginning of this year, I published my, my first book, children’s book, like I wrote and illustrated the story. And it was a very good experience. Because usually, you know, editorials and literary agencies they take too long. So I want it for at least for the story that was very special. To me, kind of, you know, our autobiography, but not really. So I wanted to, to be out quickly, so to share with my friends and family and people that appreciate what I do. So, so that was a really good advice, and bad advices pieces of advice? Well, you know, some people keep telling me that I should choose science or art like that, I should really focus on one of them. But I think so far, I’ve been doing well in both. And I will do it as long as I can. And then if at some point I have to choose, then I will see.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And so how did you publish your book, if you can maybe share your experience in that if someone from young artists are starting artists, or just now about like, oh, I want to Self Publish? So maybe you can share your story with that.
Carolina Parada
Okay. Yeah, it is not very difficult. There are several platforms where you can upload your book. And I guess there is a there is some kind of review from Amazon or Apple, but it’s not too long. So you can self publish a book in a matter of a few days. So what I what I did was I wrote the story and look for the format that Amazon required, and made the list Malay illustrations and put them together. And and yeah, as I told you, in a matter of a couple of days, he was already published. And he was already life. Yeah.
Iva Mikles
So did you have some requirements on like, how many colored pages you can have? Or how many like writing?
Carolina Parada
No, because I’ve I’ve published it just as an ebook. So I’m actually working on the same story, to send it to an literary agency. And then to publish the paper version, we then editorial. Yeah,
Iva Mikles
because I heard that then on Amazon, you can do like this kind of ready to order. So you don’t have to have this as well like physical copies. And yeah, yeah. Ebooks. It’s also fine with the picture books. Right. So it’s, it’s worth it.
Carolina Parada
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, you actually you can, you can do, you can have paper version, paper versions of your books. But to be honest, I didn’t I don’t like the format that the panel. So I rather go with an editorial and is probably better in terms of promotion. And, you know, marketing, because so far, I didn’t have the time to do it. Myself. So my book is, is there on Amazon, I have promoted a little bit. I don’t really haven’t made much effort on that. But I mean, this is what editorials and these literary agencies are for the handle or all these, let’s say boring for the job.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, well, it’s not illustration or if you don’t have time to do it, right. Yeah. And how do you find that the agency may be or the publishing house you like, did you just search on Google or did someone recommended
Carolina Parada
No, I actually I was also contacted by them. Yeah. So yeah, I haven’t done much, I was super lucky that someone contacted me. And, and they said, we are open to receive any stories or you have or any books you have illustrated, etc. So I’m working on, on changing the story of this particular book a little bit, to be able to, to fit it in the market, you know, because when you self publish, you can publish whatever you want, basically. But if you want to get into the market, then you have to adjust your illustrations and story. So they are suitable for particular populations and countries etc.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, thinking about the target group. And yeah. And when you are like, also, if we go bigger still to the self publishing, maybe like, if someone will know like, how does this work? You will just go to Amazon, and then you search for that? Or do they have like, some specific page dedicated to this? Or how does it work?
Carolina Parada
Yeah, they have? Well, they have the Kindle store. And then they have the pages, the Kindle, self publishing page. So yeah, there’s specific software that you have to use in so I use the children book version. I don’t know how it works for people that just have regular books. But it Yeah, it’s super user friendly, friendly. So it’s very easy to to publish your book.
Iva Mikles
There. Perfect. Perfect, then I’m looking forward to see more of your books in the future. Yeah. Because your illustrations are so nice and lively and inspirational. Thank you. Do you have some other exciting projects you’re working on now or something you want to share, which will happen in the future?
Carolina Parada
And well, besides my my own children book that I’m preparing, I’m also working with, with a writer from Australia. So I will probably be illustrating her book. So this is short term, but in long term, I would like to, I would like to really learn animation to be able to, you know, this is just a dream, but who knows? Yeah, like, being able to animate my stories, my illustrations would be really cool. Like, make short films with my stories. I would be amazing. If I could do that.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, definitely. I think it will be super nice to especially see your own characters move.
Carolina Parada
Right? Yeah. Yeah. And
Iva Mikles
if you imagine yourself in like five to 10 years, and nothing can fail that you would like to have your own movie, or how does this dream scenario look like?
Carolina Parada
Yeah, this is exactly what I imagined. So yeah, I would love to be able to make long movies. But I know that this is extremely difficult, but Poonch Yeah, so. So that’s, that’s my dream, basically, that my stories can get into animation. And well, that a good number of people can see them and can think about them. And, you know, it’s nice to be able to convey a message through images. So, yeah, why not? I would I would love to do that.
Iva Mikles
Yeah, definitely. And did you ever have like, struggles or difficult art career moment? You know? And if you had something like that, what do you learn from it, if you can share?
Carolina Parada
Yes, I did have a pretty bad experience this year at the beginning of the year. And so because most of my illustrations are digital, so I post them Brad brightness as they come from the iPad from the tablet. And I wasn’t really careful on on putting a signature that couldn’t be removed. So I realized that an editorial company was using my illustration to promote their books for their book campaigns without they didn’t contact me at all. And so when I when I realized it was already too late, because they they have used eight or 10 of my illustrations and and so and yeah, it could be like maybe six months or, or something like that, that they had been using my drugs. So when I contacted them because they are in a different country in which apparently the copyright law is not very strict. They said that I, that I couldn’t do anything, and then they would keep using my drugs. So that was quite upsetting. And so I was really ready to take legal actions. But fortunately, finally, and I don’t know how I think he was, you know, it was a lot of pressure from people that follow me, because I told this story on Instagram and people went there to their page. So to tell them, Okay, this is not right, this is not correct. So finally, they decided to remove my illustrations from their social media. I just don’t know if they keep using them in their country. But so that was very annoying. And, and I have found my my illustrations in several pages. And yeah, people remove my signature. And but I think this is, this is getting really come and I think illustrators, we should find a way to make people to let people know that this is not correct. Because most of the time is just ignorance that, you know, us people think that they are just images coming from the internet. And they don’t have because this is what people have answered to me. No, I found it in the internet on the internet. So yeah, so this should be a way to inform people that this this is not correct. Yeah. And yeah.
Iva Mikles
Yeah. So then it would be also good to have like a copyright, which is harder maybe to remove. And also it’s good to have the community which can support your, your art, so they inform you if they see it somewhere or help you communicate with someone. Where is it used? Right?
Carolina Parada
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So this is the only bad experience I’ve had. This is the only but moment of or experience I’ve had so far. But other than that, illustration, for me has been like, it gives me only happiness, pretty much.
Iva Mikles
That’s perfect. And my last question will be about far, far future. And I would like to know, like, what would you like to be remembered for in like, 100 years or more?
Carolina Parada
Okay. Oh, this is a Brady question. I don’t know if I if I need to, if I want to be remembered that far from now. But you know, if I’m able to tell stories, and that people enjoy them, and they feel connected to them, and they feel excited about them? That would be enough. Yeah, that would be that would make me happy.
Iva Mikles
Perfect. And maybe before we say goodbye, you can share like last piece of advice or key takeaway, and then we will finish
Carolina Parada
well, well, as everybody say, you should do things that you love and that make you happy. And you know, when when you think when you do things that make you happy, it usually make people around you happy as well. So if you’re an illustrator, it will make a lot of people happy. So why not? Is just you just, you know, sharing your person with other people is, is nice and be honest. I guess this is what I can tell you.
Iva Mikles
Totally agree. And thank you so much again for for being here and just inspiring others.
Carolina Parada
Okay, thank you for having me and for the interview and thanks so much. Thanks, everyone,
Iva Mikles
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